WEBVTT NOTE This transcript was created on 2026-06-07 at 12:53:33 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:10.259 Hello, dear listener, and welcome back to Jody and Terra, the only Doctor Who flash cast that really misses the lovely way that those boys from global chemicals used to behave. 2 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:23.100 We're all here after having watched this week's episode, which, of course, was the long anticipated arachnids in the UK. 3 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:28.079 And I'm going to throw it to Todd, if that's all right, and see what you thought of it. 4 00:00:28.140 --> 00:00:28.620 Todd. 5 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:31.019 Thanks, Nathan. 6 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:31.980 Hi everyone. 7 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:32.640 Hi listeners. 8 00:00:32.700 --> 00:00:34.979 Look, I enjoyed this. 9 00:00:35.039 --> 00:00:36.899 I mean, I'd give it 7 out of 10. 10 00:00:37.140 --> 00:00:47.100 Like, I thought it had heart, you know, I think all of Teen TARDIS had their moments of of lovely, you know, character growth. 11 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:51.179 Even the doctor, you know, warning her whole team about coming with her. 12 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:56.700 I mean, I think that's the 1st time I've had like real character growth for the doctor in, in, you know, forever. 13 00:00:56.700 --> 00:01:03.119 And Bradley Walsh hitted out at the ballpark again and I thought that his relationship with Ryan was beautiful. 14 00:01:03.179 --> 00:01:05.879 Yaz had some lovely moments at the beginning and end. 15 00:01:05.939 --> 00:01:11.879 She did get a bit lost, I thought, because of the with the mother and the other spider woman and Mr. Big. 16 00:01:11.939 --> 00:01:13.200 I thought she got a bit lost in the mix. 17 00:01:13.260 --> 00:01:16.319 Yet again, I think there was some great humour in it. 18 00:01:16.379 --> 00:01:23.519 Like I was laughing about the mother's attempt to pair her off with whoever and the doctor's joke about Ed Sheeran just, oh, I was cracking up about that. 19 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:28.439 And, you know, it had scary moments and the music was fantastic. 20 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:36.900 And, um, I wasn't quite, you know, there was a few little things where I thought, oh, you know, trapping all the spiders in that panic room at the end and well, they're all dead, aren't they? 21 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:40.140 It was very humane, Todd. 22 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:42.420 Well, yeah, yes, it was very humane. 23 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:47.879 And I guess the other thing I really loved was the fact that when the TARDIS travelled through the inside of a gel guard, you know? 24 00:01:50.219 --> 00:01:52.799 Which I thought was utterly beautiful. 25 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:54.900 And, and, yeah, so I enjoyed it. 26 00:01:54.900 --> 00:02:05.819 And, you know, I got my, I got my, you know, my, my, my, my shocks and and uh, and the humour and everything and yeah, and I had a bit of political stuff and there was a family and, you know, good. 27 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:06.599 There you go. 28 00:02:06.659 --> 00:02:08.099 Brilliant. brilliant. 29 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:10.379 Richard, you're a big fan of the Green Death. 30 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:10.919 What did you think? 31 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:21.120 Well, I'm an even bigger fan of the work of, as you've honestly, as we've often said, that descendant of German filmmaking Stanley Kubrick. 32 00:02:21.180 --> 00:02:29.460 Um, and I'm thinking back to Stephen King's novel that became a really quite extraordinary 1980 film called The Shining. 33 00:02:29.460 --> 00:02:34.439 Um, and right from the tracking shots over the carpet. 34 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:37.080 I know this establishing shot. 35 00:02:37.139 --> 00:02:37.979 I know this film. 36 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:40.199 You're doing Kubrick. 37 00:02:40.259 --> 00:02:42.120 So it was a lovely melange. 38 00:02:42.180 --> 00:02:50.580 Everyone's been saying yes, yes, there's maggots and the thing, but I think that's kind of, that's the obvious castback, which is a lovely thing that Chipmull seems to be throwing a lot. 39 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:55.379 But I also like that he does Molly Grubblers or Molly Grubbers, I should say as well. 40 00:02:55.439 --> 00:03:01.500 And he's he's bowling under arm a lot and he's throwing lots of things to us that I really like a lot. 41 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:11.219 Um, I remember that the little boy who was psychic in that film's name was also called Jack and I'd like to think that Chris Knoth's character is just the little boy in the shining grown up. 42 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:14.580 Grown up and dark and horrible things. 43 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:15.960 I want to talk. 44 00:03:16.020 --> 00:03:17.819 I want to talk politics because I do that. 45 00:03:17.939 --> 00:03:25.620 We know Chrisnoff's personal position on American politics and it's kind of obvious he's an actor. 46 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:26.699 He's lived in New York. 47 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:28.379 They all think the same way. 48 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:35.819 So, from what I've been hearing, he kind of begged for this role. 49 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:36.900 What would you like? 50 00:03:37.020 --> 00:03:38.819 Or he pitches, you know, you want to be on the show. 51 00:03:38.939 --> 00:03:40.439 He said, well, you know what would you want to do? 52 00:03:40.500 --> 00:03:44.460 And he said, well, we'd like to play you as a play you as the sort of anti-Trump trump. 53 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:46.919 He went, oh, oh, I would, I would so love that. 54 00:03:46.979 --> 00:03:47.819 And there was no shoes. 55 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:49.979 No, no, we don't talk about shoes once. 56 00:03:50.099 --> 00:03:50.939 So that's fine. 57 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:52.500 Get me away from that horse faced woman. 58 00:03:53.460 --> 00:03:56.879 That's a reference to the Stormy Daniels line. 59 00:03:56.939 --> 00:03:59.879 That Trump spoke spoke of. 60 00:03:59.939 --> 00:04:03.780 I think the best thing in this is beautiful cinematography. 61 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:08.159 The realisation, this series, and the art direction is just gorgeous. 62 00:04:08.219 --> 00:04:13.979 I don't think we've seen anything so good since episode one of the sensor rights, and no, I'm not... 63 00:04:13.979 --> 00:04:25.379 I'm only being half naughty there because I'm thinking back to the sounds of the web planet and, you know, and our own Rosalind De Winter, who is, you know, one of the patron saints of the podcast. 64 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:28.259 And just how bloody frightening was this? 65 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:29.220 How did you all feel? 66 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:30.959 Jumping around. 67 00:04:31.019 --> 00:04:32.819 Yeah, I thought it was scary. 68 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:37.259 I thought there was one particularly disgusting moment when, is it Stormzy? 69 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:51.899 I'm really old, so I don't know what that musician was called, but when his track was luring them all into the panic room, and there was some particularly disgusting spider leg movement things at that moment, which I just thought were really super horrifying. 70 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:57.360 And I think that this is, you know, that for a generation of children. 71 00:04:57.420 --> 00:05:04.079 This could well be their green death because those spiders, like they weren't super convincing all the time, but they were great. 72 00:05:04.139 --> 00:05:06.120 I mean, and they were super scary. 73 00:05:07.259 --> 00:05:09.600 Oh, they were beautiful. 74 00:05:09.660 --> 00:05:13.740 And they were so fluffy. those 1st moments in the house. 75 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:20.399 Just so gorgeous and so many nods to um, to films of German filmmakers. 76 00:05:20.459 --> 00:05:21.300 So just really lovely. 77 00:05:22.620 --> 00:05:24.660 Okay, excellent. 78 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:26.279 Brendan, you hate it. 79 00:05:26.339 --> 00:05:27.360 Is that right? 80 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:29.579 Hello? 81 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:32.040 Yeah, no, absolutely hated it. 0 out of 10. 82 00:05:32.220 --> 00:05:32.939 No, I loved it. 83 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.279 I thought it was absolutely brilliant. 84 00:05:35.339 --> 00:05:36.839 It's an 8 out of 10 from me. 85 00:05:36.899 --> 00:05:41.399 I very much appreciated that they weren't the spiders of Metabilus 3. 86 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:43.439 Yeah, because... 87 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:44.759 I didn't... 88 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:47.100 I had a moustache would not have gone astray. 89 00:05:47.699 --> 00:05:50.040 Gareth on look alike. 90 00:05:50.339 --> 00:05:51.899 No, no, but... 91 00:05:51.899 --> 00:05:52.199 Yeah. 92 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:55.319 Actually, well, there was a moustache. 93 00:05:55.379 --> 00:05:58.199 Um, Yeah, yeah, his dad had a beard. 94 00:05:58.259 --> 00:05:59.220 Hakeem had a beard. 95 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:01.319 I loved her. we talk about the family? 96 00:06:01.379 --> 00:06:03.120 They are fantastic. 97 00:06:03.180 --> 00:06:05.579 So it's Hakeem, Sonya, and Nadia. 98 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:08.100 Yeah, the family. 99 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:09.360 Just delightful. 100 00:06:09.420 --> 00:06:11.819 And that sister, we've got a neiress. 101 00:06:12.060 --> 00:06:13.740 Yes, we do. 102 00:06:13.860 --> 00:06:14.819 Or an Annalise. 103 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:16.500 Exactly. thinking that as well. 104 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:34.620 So, well, the thing is, I think not only do we have a neris, but continuing Todd's analogy from the last few weeks, if you don't mind me stealing this, Todd, um, Nadja, I think, is a bit like, you know, this is absent mother, whereas Hakeem is a bit more like tree masks. 105 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:37.740 You know, he's, he's capable and loving, but he's a bit dodtery. 106 00:06:37.740 --> 00:06:45.660 Um, and, um, you know, Sonya always sort of sniping at, um, at Yaz and bringing her down. 107 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:52.980 Well, she's Cassia quite clearly. glowing eyes by the end of the season, painted on naturally. 108 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:57.420 But yeah, I thought this was perfectly pitched. 109 00:06:57.480 --> 00:07:00.839 Um, just the right level of scares and laughs. 110 00:07:00.899 --> 00:07:12.899 The scene where it seems like Ryan is about to say to Graham, my dad's not really family that you are, and of course they suddenly realise we're in a room full of spiders, is brilliant. 111 00:07:13.019 --> 00:07:19.319 And my only, my only sort of real disappointment is, okay, arachnid's in the UK. 112 00:07:19.379 --> 00:07:21.720 I get it, it's another music reference. 113 00:07:21.779 --> 00:07:25.680 But maybe spiders of Sheffield might have been a better time. 114 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:30.899 I agree with you, Brandon. 115 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:32.220 Yeah, Spiders of Sheffield. 116 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:34.199 Isn't it a play on anarchy in the UK? 117 00:07:34.259 --> 00:07:35.639 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 118 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:37.560 It's not a very good one. reference. 119 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:42.180 I was thinking small northern town of the spiders, you know. 120 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:47.939 Sheffield's more of a medium-sized town of the spiders. 121 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:57.060 I was getting a bit of a Tish Jones vibe from Natcha, actually, because she happens to be employed by this week's villain for, you know, no particular reason. 122 00:07:57.120 --> 00:07:58.439 I kind of thought. 123 00:07:59.100 --> 00:08:01.439 I wonder if that's her mother. 124 00:08:01.500 --> 00:08:02.459 Yes it is. 125 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:03.779 Oh, that didn't occur to me. 126 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:05.459 I have to say that that did come as a surprise. 127 00:08:05.579 --> 00:08:07.379 I wonder if she worked, didn't it? 128 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:08.100 Yes, yes. 129 00:08:08.100 --> 00:08:26.100 I, well, I, based on the pre-publicity, I thought Jade, the scientist, was going to be Yaz's sister, but I quite, I quite like that Yaz is the older sister and Sonya's sort of uh, like typical late teen young adult. character. 130 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:33.179 But Richard, I think, well, anyone might know this, but I think if anyone does, it's going to be Richard. 131 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:34.679 Richard, did you recognise Nadia? 132 00:08:34.740 --> 00:08:36.360 Nadia, Nadia. 133 00:08:36.419 --> 00:08:37.559 Oh, oh, oh, oh. 134 00:08:37.620 --> 00:08:38.100 Yes, I did. 135 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:39.360 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. 136 00:08:39.419 --> 00:08:40.799 And now bugger it. 137 00:08:40.860 --> 00:08:41.700 I can't think who she is. 138 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:42.720 Come, tell. 139 00:08:42.779 --> 00:08:43.980 Dinner ladies. 140 00:08:44.220 --> 00:08:47.820 Oh, right. 141 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:50.879 She is with Celia Imry, whom we own. 142 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:54.000 Golly, that's a while ago. 143 00:08:54.059 --> 00:08:56.639 Yeah, and... 144 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:57.600 She's looking great. 145 00:08:57.659 --> 00:08:59.159 That's why I didn't spot her. 146 00:08:59.220 --> 00:09:01.799 Gee, I didn't know that chip fat could be that good for you. 147 00:09:01.860 --> 00:09:03.360 Billy Piper is right. 148 00:09:04.860 --> 00:09:10.139 I'm certainly inviting her to Mumcon, which is my fantasy convention. 149 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:12.720 Amy's mother's not invited. 150 00:09:12.779 --> 00:09:14.460 She doesn't exist. 151 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:16.500 But yeah, this mother definitely is. 152 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:18.179 She was superb. 153 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:21.779 Look, for me, this was absolutely everything that I want out of Doctor Who. 154 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:34.379 And it was what I was hoping Chibnell would do after seeing all of Broadchurch because I spent the last 3 weeks thinking Broadchurch was often really funny, despite being about murdering children mostly. 155 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.200 It actually manages that's hilarious. 156 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:41.519 It actually manages to be funny all the time. 157 00:09:41.580 --> 00:09:45.539 And I was thinking maybe it's just Olivia and David that are making it funny. 158 00:09:45.659 --> 00:09:49.980 But there was super, super funny dialogue all the way through this. 159 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:59.100 There was heart, there was a family, you know, um, All of these people online who were sort of saying, oh, it all wrapped up too quickly. 160 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:00.600 I mean, we had a lot of exposition. 161 00:10:00.659 --> 00:10:07.080 I think we had as much exposition as we needed for this, and I was glad that it finished early enough to give us proper time. 162 00:10:07.139 --> 00:10:17.460 That's what I hope from these 50 minute episodes, that we get proper time to spend with the characters and do the character stuff, and we're not just running from place to place, and this absolutely delivered. 163 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:26.820 I feel very bad saying this because I think Rosa is a much more important episode, but this is my favourite episode of the series so far. 164 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:28.980 I just adored it. 165 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:30.659 I thought it was so fantastic. 166 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:37.500 I watched it twice last night and I was just laughing like a giant idiot both times. 167 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:39.120 It was so good. 168 00:10:39.179 --> 00:10:40.019 It was so good. 169 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:41.220 And the politics of it. 170 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:49.679 You know, you've got Donald Trump's entire business empire is built on a festering pile of toxic garbage. 171 00:10:51.779 --> 00:10:53.460 That's right. 172 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:57.059 You know, and he's got all these Trump things he's obsessed with his phone. 173 00:10:57.120 --> 00:11:00.299 You know, he's a germaphobe, so he's constantly wiping his hands. 174 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:03.000 You know, his hotel's in the middle of a golf course. 175 00:11:03.059 --> 00:11:04.559 James was saying before. 176 00:11:04.620 --> 00:11:05.940 And that fabulous bit. 177 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:13.799 You know how Trump was saying that he would have rushed into Parkland and single-handedly fought off the gunman because of course he's a giant idiot. 178 00:11:14.220 --> 00:11:20.700 He, he, you know, pushes poor Kevin into the bathroom and locks the door behind him. 179 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:22.500 Lock the door. 180 00:11:22.620 --> 00:11:23.820 Hello? 181 00:11:23.820 --> 00:11:25.559 Oh, boy. 182 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:28.559 Look, I was sitting there and you wanted to die. 183 00:11:28.620 --> 00:11:30.659 You like you want this character too. 184 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:31.860 Yeah, yeah. such an asshole. 185 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:35.580 And then, and then he doesn't, which is it's perfect. 186 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:36.360 It works with. 187 00:11:36.779 --> 00:11:39.720 Oh, I think I think you're missing a little bit more of this one, don't you? 188 00:11:39.779 --> 00:11:42.299 Is the A Harriet Jones? 189 00:11:42.779 --> 00:11:45.000 I hope we'll be seeing more of it. 190 00:11:45.059 --> 00:11:47.639 But I mean, we all said that about Krasco last week. 191 00:11:47.700 --> 00:11:54.779 I actually think that, um, you know, people have been complaining that Jody doesn't manage to do a good killing a villain thing. 192 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:57.480 They've been she hasn't killed any villain. 193 00:11:57.539 --> 00:11:58.620 She's 0 for four. 194 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:02.639 And I just kind of think that's clearly not what she's going to be doing. 195 00:12:02.700 --> 00:12:07.740 And also, speaking of which... of the nature of the program. 196 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:08.639 Yeah, yeah. 197 00:12:08.700 --> 00:12:09.059 Yeah. 198 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:27.179 I'm a little bit uncomfortable with the with the extreme position that the show has taken because I have never met a woman, let alone anyone in my York who wouldn't want to take a big swat to that massive major spider. 199 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:30.299 Well, David Tennant flushed all those ones down the sink, remember? 200 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:31.740 Yeah, this was special. 201 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:36.600 It's the only bit that didn't quite hold within its own reality for me. 202 00:12:36.659 --> 00:12:45.000 I think I think that she was sort of sending the other spiders to the panic room to basically eat each other while... 203 00:12:45.059 --> 00:12:46.320 That went that went through my mind. 204 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:49.679 I did. 205 00:12:49.740 --> 00:12:53.820 I did think, though, that that was actually it actually managed to be a bit moving. 206 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:58.740 You know, that that spider was sort of struggling to breathe and the doctor was kind to it. 207 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:03.539 And that scene ends with her kneeling down by the spider as it dies. 208 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:07.679 And I thought that that was good and that was proper weirdly doctor-ish, you know. 209 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:09.480 She's a Buddhist now. 210 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:11.220 She's proper Buddhist doctor. 211 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:12.480 That's it. 212 00:13:13.379 --> 00:13:19.559 Back to the, you know, like Todd's analogy that this is basically the 5th doctor. 213 00:13:19.620 --> 00:13:21.000 It is. 214 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:25.679 Yeah, like the character... values life above all else. 215 00:13:25.740 --> 00:13:32.879 Yeah, I'm giving it a seven, the 7th doctor, because he's the one who very, very definitely says we're not going to kill. 216 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:34.980 And I like that. 217 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:36.659 I think that's... 218 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:37.379 Yeah, that's good. 219 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:46.559 But I do think, you know, this is very much our centuries green death, and I think they did a really, really terrific job of it. 220 00:13:46.620 --> 00:13:49.919 Yeah, it does wear its politics on its sleeve. 221 00:13:49.980 --> 00:13:51.539 Well, so does the Green Death, though. 222 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:52.620 So did Rosa. 223 00:13:52.679 --> 00:14:04.919 I kind of like that with the, with the ethics of this series so far, when we've seen them, they are really, you know, like they're proud of them. 224 00:14:04.980 --> 00:14:07.320 They're saying, we are against... 225 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:10.139 Yeah, bigotry and racism. 226 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:12.120 We value life. 227 00:14:12.179 --> 00:14:21.899 We, you know, like we believe that these sort of, you know, like these rampant capitalism that's destroying the planet is wrong. 228 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:23.100 Yeah. 229 00:14:23.100 --> 00:14:28.379 It's something I loved about Pertwee is the Pertwee sort of Baronet stories as well. 230 00:14:28.500 --> 00:14:51.240 I have to say that, I think the biggest surprise for me in this season is the heart, the heart of this team TARDIS, and it's a real strength that Jim was playing to and the visuals are just stunning and I think the music's wonderful and and now we're getting more humour as we get to know these characters and hopefully we'll continue to build from here. 231 00:14:51.299 --> 00:14:52.379 Yeah. 232 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:55.139 Yeah, I think that's, I think that's good. 233 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:56.580 All right. 234 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:59.519 Is our, how is our time going? 235 00:14:59.700 --> 00:15:02.159 Oh, you've got it on silent. 236 00:15:02.220 --> 00:15:06.000 I paid for a sound effect last week, James, you're just not going to any effort at all. 237 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:11.399 Oh, there we go. 238 00:15:11.460 --> 00:15:12.240 There we go. 239 00:15:12.299 --> 00:15:14.519 Look, ding, ding, ding, ding. 240 00:15:14.580 --> 00:15:17.820 Are there any, are there any sort of closing remarks? 241 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:18.600 I've got one. 242 00:15:18.659 --> 00:15:22.799 I think Yaz was outed by her mother as bisexual this week. 243 00:15:22.860 --> 00:15:24.659 I have actually... 244 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:30.059 Although, there's also a play on every Asian mother, just, I just want you to be married. 245 00:15:30.179 --> 00:15:31.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 246 00:15:31.259 --> 00:15:32.519 I don't... 247 00:15:32.580 --> 00:15:33.419 Oh, she's a doctor. 248 00:15:33.539 --> 00:15:34.980 I mean, the fact that she was a doctor. 249 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:36.360 I actually think that was a fluff. 250 00:15:36.419 --> 00:15:40.440 That's actually my only flaw apart from the spider thing of this episode. 251 00:15:40.500 --> 00:15:41.580 Thank you for bringing it up. 252 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:45.360 I think the actor herself. through that line. 253 00:15:45.419 --> 00:15:51.480 I don't believe that that was written to be such a throwaway in in a kind of judgy tone. 254 00:15:51.539 --> 00:15:52.440 I think it was meant to be. 255 00:15:52.500 --> 00:15:53.639 So are you 2 going out? 256 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:55.559 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 257 00:15:55.620 --> 00:15:57.419 Yeah, I've reached doctor, you say. 258 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:03.299 A little a little more gita of blooming lovely than... 259 00:16:03.299 --> 00:16:03.840 Yeah, yeah. 260 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:06.179 And it would have been kind of beautiful if that had happened. 261 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:07.500 I'm bit sad about that. 262 00:16:07.620 --> 00:16:10.080 I think there was a Sarah Jane vibe to it. 263 00:16:10.139 --> 00:16:17.100 And anyone who complains that Doctor Who is too much like Sarah Jane adventures can go and watch something else, I think, yeah. 264 00:16:17.700 --> 00:16:21.659 Well, they've already had their fun ectony, haven't they? 265 00:16:21.779 --> 00:16:24.779 They can go and look at panic bro. 266 00:16:26.820 --> 00:16:40.139 Look, I did, I did think that the, um, the exposition in front of the toxic waste dump, like both Rod and I looked at each other about 3 quarters of the way through that, were like, yes, okay, we get it. now. 267 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:45.419 Did you notice Ryan during the exposition in the lamp where there's this exposition scene? 268 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:45.960 Yes. 269 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:49.320 Do the rabbit, yes. projector. 270 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:51.840 So brilliant. 271 00:16:51.899 --> 00:16:52.919 So brilliant. 272 00:16:53.100 --> 00:16:54.899 Was it deliberate? 273 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:55.679 I think so. 274 00:16:55.740 --> 00:16:58.559 Oh, do you think maybe it was something a toasten thought of? 275 00:16:58.620 --> 00:17:00.779 It was just pretty cheeky. 276 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:01.320 Yeah. 277 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:02.279 Yeah. 278 00:17:02.340 --> 00:17:16.920 And I think also we're starting to get a little a little thing in these episodes where there's something in each episode which Ryan just starts enjoying himself and turns on that brilliant smile, like when he's the one who comes up with the music idea and he's just sitting there rocking out to it. 279 00:17:16.980 --> 00:17:17.759 It was so great. 280 00:17:17.819 --> 00:17:19.500 That was so enjoyable. 281 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:20.279 Yeah. 282 00:17:20.279 --> 00:17:21.420 All right. 283 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:22.619 Well, I think we'll wind it up. 284 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:25.740 Todd, did you have anything more to add? 285 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:28.079 No, I think we've said it all. 286 00:17:28.140 --> 00:17:30.000 Okay, look, this is a quick one. 287 00:17:30.059 --> 00:17:31.079 I think we've done very well. 288 00:17:31.140 --> 00:17:32.339 All right. 289 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:33.779 So before we go, yes. 290 00:17:34.140 --> 00:17:34.859 Just before we go. 291 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:37.319 Can I spook something completely unrelated? 292 00:17:37.380 --> 00:17:38.160 Oh, yes. 293 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:49.319 Uh, next week on the ABC, next Tuesday night, uh, November the 6th at 9.30 PM is a documentary I worked on called Nolan. 294 00:17:49.380 --> 00:17:52.319 Ooh, about the Nolan sisters. 295 00:17:52.380 --> 00:17:53.640 Yes, yes, right. 296 00:17:54.420 --> 00:17:59.400 Sydney, their long lost brother, who was a famous Australian artist. 297 00:17:59.460 --> 00:18:02.160 Now I didn't have anything creative to do on this. 298 00:18:02.220 --> 00:18:12.180 I was in an administrative support role, but it's a fantastic documentary, so that is next Tuesday night at 930 on ABC TV. 299 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:13.079 Excellent. 300 00:18:13.140 --> 00:18:13.740 That's brilliant. 301 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:14.460 Thank you very much. 302 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:15.359 It is exciting. 303 00:18:15.420 --> 00:18:15.900 Yeah. 304 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:16.859 All right. 305 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:19.500 So well, we'll wind it up there. 306 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:25.079 Thanks, everyone, for joining us on the call tonight, and thank you, everyone at home for listening. 307 00:18:25.140 --> 00:18:41.039 Don't forget, our main podcast is rocketing towards the end of series one of Doctor Who, um, and you'll find that at flightthroughentirety.com and at uh, FTE podcast on Twitter and at Flightthroughentirety at Apple Podcast. 308 00:18:41.099 --> 00:18:43.319 That's the wrong order, but it doesn't matter. staying with it. 309 00:18:43.380 --> 00:18:54.000 And on Bondfinger, we have finally reached the end of the Bond franchise with the release this week of Spectre, our commentary on Spectre. 310 00:18:54.059 --> 00:18:59.400 And so we would like to promise you with our hands and our hearts right now that there will never, ever be another episode. 311 00:18:59.460 --> 00:19:00.240 No, that's not true. 312 00:19:00.299 --> 00:19:08.279 We are going to continue the podcast and say stay tuned to bondfinger.com and at bondfingercast on Twitter for more news on that. 313 00:19:08.339 --> 00:19:13.079 So it really remains for me to say just one more thing. 314 00:19:13.140 --> 00:19:15.059 Thank you very much for listening a good night. 315 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:16.380 Me too. 316 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:17.519 Bye. 317 00:19:17.579 --> 00:19:19.440 Get off the line.