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Hello, Delister, and welcome back to Jody and To Terra, the only

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Doctor Who flash cast that once lived in the Australian outback

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for 123 years before it all burnt to a crisp.

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I'm Nathan.

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I'm James I'm Brendan.

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I'm Peter.

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And I'm Todd.

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So we are fresh off watching, what's it called?

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SpyFall part one, which is obviously the opening episode of series

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12 and obviously the 2020 New Year's special.

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So let's just start by going round the horn and seeing what people

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thought of it.

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Todd.

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Oh, oh.

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Oh, oh, Omega.

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That would have been a revelation.

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Oh, look, I'm so...

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I thought it would have been more of a revelation, would have been

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oh, oh, Ogri.

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Look, I have to say, I'm so excited. about Sasha as the master.

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That's my highlight for the episode and I loved having the 2 big

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name guest stars to sort of, um, sort of take your attention away

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from him, I guess.

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And I was really intrigued by the aliens because I kept thinking

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are they the Vardens or the plasmatons, and then, and then when

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they got in the plane, I'm thinking it's going to be the faceless

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ones, and, uh, and I thought the regular cast, you know, all had

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things, good things to do, and, I was, I was, it held my attention

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like, like, and, and I liked it, and the 2nd time I watched it, I

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liked it even more.

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So, um, and, and the master got to say that the, the interior of

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the TARDIS was ridiculous and I think it is ridiculous.

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And so it's sort of an antidote thing and I thought that was, you

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can poke fun at yourself fantastic.

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So, yeah, that's my hot take on it.

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It's like the moment where they started to say that Peter Capoldi

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looked like a magician.

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Do you know what I mean?

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All right.

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Peter, what do you think?

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Well, it's very apt that we're Skyping into you from the

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Australian outback today.

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So we haven't seen any masters round.

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So that's possibly good or possibly a bad thing in the case of

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Sasha Dowan.

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I would love to see him around.

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Um, I was very heartened by this episode because I wasn't the

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greatest fan of Chris Chibmall's writing last season.

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I thought that the other writers in the team did a better job.

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But this had a lot to recommend it.

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Um, I still felt there were a couple of problems.

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I still think that Chris has got a tin ear for dialogue and

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particularly for banter.

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But there was a lot to like as well.

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It was quite tightly structured.

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Um, the regulars were, Given quite a lot to do.

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And it had some peace to it, which was a problem last year.

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It really belted along, I thought, and reached that climax where

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it just kind of, you know, I was looking around at the people I

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was watching it with, and everyone was wrapped by that point.

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And there's a way to a Doctor Who fan's heart and that was it.

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Yeah, brilliant.

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Brilliant.

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What about you, Brendan?

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Um, well, Coming off the back of what Peter said, a Litman test

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for me is always how much Rod enjoys it.

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Of course, and at the as the closing credits went up, he said

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that's the best episode we've had since Capaldi took over.

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Wow.

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I heard someone on Twitter say best ones since RTD left.

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Yeah, yeah, I saw that as well.

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And on New Year's Day, I put up my series 11 retrospective video

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on my YouTube channel and I don't think I'm exaggerating to say, I

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think that, um, I'm probably the, the member of the podcast team

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who enjoyed last season the most, possibly.

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Maybe, maybe equal with James, but um, certainly, you know, I

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enjoyed it very greatly, but even with that video I put up, I kind

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of raised, there were 3 things I wanted to see improved, and one

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of those was more for Yaz to do, which this episode delivered in

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spades and shows just how good an actress Mandip Gill is, um, there

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was also the fact that I didn't like getting references to

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adventures that sounded more interesting than what we were seeing

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on screen.

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Now, what about the bike off though?

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Well, the thing is, though, right?

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That Bikoff reference?

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It's one line which is immediately relevant to the upcoming

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scene.

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We have to know why they can ride a motorcycle.

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Otherwise it's Sarah Jane with a rifle all over again.

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And yeah, my other complaint was publicity and the public and the

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and the team not revealing very much.

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The publicity for this episode was excellent.

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There was 2 trailers and 2 preview scenes and the preview scenes

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didn't give much away.

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They just sort of whetted the appetite.

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But also, this episode proves Chris Chibnall's, perhaps, um, clamp

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down on news and publicity.

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Well, it might kind of pay off if we get reveals like the spy

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master.

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Oh, Brandon, can I can I say something to that as well, Brandon?

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Because I was completely spoiler free with that and it had the

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intended effect.

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I didn't see it coming until the moment it happened and it was

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great.

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Yeah, I was not completely spoiler free and it was my own fault

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because I looked on Twitter and I saw someone mention the master

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and I thought, oh, is it possible?

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But I was thinking it was going to be Lenny Henry.

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Everything was leading up to it being Letty Henry, and then it's

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Sasha Duan.

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So that had that effect on me.

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I'm very grateful to say.

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But like Todd, I was I was thinking Vardens and Chameleons are

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these things.

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I now have a new theory, which I may come back to later if we have

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time, but that's all I'm going to say for now.

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What about you, James?

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Look, I'm not going to disagree with you, Anna. really enjoyed

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it.

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And like you say, Brennan, I, you know, I think I liked the series

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um, in 2018, as much as as you, if not more, but I could see its

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flaws.

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I mean, I knew it was deeply flawed, especially that that final

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episode was just awful.

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But I was, I was just, I was watching it in the car on the way

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from Melbourne to Canada.

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I felt a little sick at the end of it. mainly because of the

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motion sickness.

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I hope that that car didn't crash and then go backwards, long nose

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away.

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And look, I had had had the master spoiled for me about 2.5 , 3

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months ago, like there were rumours going about that he'd been

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cast as the master.

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And I went, oh, well, you know, there's always rumours that

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someone's been cast in the past and completely forgot about it.

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I had forgotten about it as well.

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I think I'd heard them too.

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And it got, oh, you know, that would be lovely, but, oh, yeah.

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And I'd not seen that he'd actually been cast.

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And then when he popped up, I didn't remember until the moment he

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says his name.

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I just was like, oh my god.

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I squeaked.

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Sorry.

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Smoke inhalation.

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Yeah.

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No, I really loved this episode.

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I think it's worth mentioning just how expensive it looked too.

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I mean, last year we had all that cinematography, which made it

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look like prestige drama.

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And, you know, sometimes you would look at it and think this

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really looks as good as the show's ever looked, but often it would

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have a small kind of, you know, guest cast and, you know, there'd

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be a lot of walking around.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And this was like it was brightly coloured.

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It just moved.

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There were car 2 car chases, you know, like the casino scene was

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fun.

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The whole thing was just really super enjoyable.

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Snap.

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I love Jodie playing snap.

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All of that stuff was good.

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How did people feel about the regulars?

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Brendan's already said that he was happy to see Yaz get a decent

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turn.

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I think that it was good to see stuff with her family and see her

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be affected.

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I was laughing at the father trying to get Alexa to work because I

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got one for Christmas and was screening at the thing like he was

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so I felt very connected with that.

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Do you think it's a Yorkshire accent joke?

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Is that it?

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Like, it can't understand people with Yorkshire accents.

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Yeah.

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So, and I thought Ryan had a lot of good comedy stuff to do and

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that is his strength and and Graham, I just enjoy Graham all the

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time and he was great.

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I loved Ryan turning to Graham and saying they're not toys

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Graham.

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I know, right?

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I really liked Ryan's little bit in the casino where the 2 women

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walked past him when he just won.

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He was like, oh, hello, ladies.

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Absolute dogs, like that.

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Super embarrassing. that really sweet bit where, you know, Yaz

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throws the dice and she's like, did I win?

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And, um, oh, is like, no.

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No, you didn't.

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And they just have a little giggle about that.

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It's just a nice little character moment. starts hitting on her.

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Yeah, yeah, especially when you consider, oh, that's really

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sweet.

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And then, you know, 5 minutes later, it's like, oh, oh, no.

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Oh, oh, no, no, no.

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We like, we like him.

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I have a theory about Yaz, which I'll mention at the end of the

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Oh, money.

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Yeah, no, I thought it was nice that everyone got a job to do.

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And I actually kind of like the pairing of Yaz and Ryan and Graham

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and the doctor because I think those 2 sort of work incredibly

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well.

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You know, as...

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It's a bit like the Dr. and Tegan and Nissa and Adrick, really

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isn't it?

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Yeah, or yeah.

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Sorry.

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Do you know, it's that weird thing where in series 12, it's the

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doctor and Harry and then Sarah wanders off and has her own

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adventures.

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Season 12.

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Same thing.

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I think actually if you take that analogy further to the original

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Tartars team, Graham's got to be Susan.

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No, someone was saying that Ryan was Vicky because he's kind of

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the slightly vulnerable one who kind of gets into trouble.

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Yeah, that was me.

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Graham's Barbara.

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Yeah, Graham, of course.

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Yes.

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I think it was DK from the Doctor Who show, who kind of objected

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saying, yeah, but Ian did stuff.

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I'm like, yeah, but Yaz is always wanting to punch people in the

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face when they annoy you.

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And she knows how to use a gun.

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You know, that's the most, that's the most, I said, but you know

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it's Ian specifically in the reign of terror.

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God, when he spends most of the episode locked up.

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Would a British policewoman know how to use a gun?

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Yeah, yeah.

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They'd have the training.

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They're just not allowed to use them.

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Yeah, it's all those Secondments.

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She keeps skipping out on training.

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All of that was actually really fun.

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I loved Ryan's detached retina and things.

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In fact, it's kind of, it's sort of interesting to see them play

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with that aspect of it and I wonder whether it'll pay off, whether

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there'll be something about, you know, them disappearing for long

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periods of time and what effect that'll have at home.

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I'm glad they reintroduced Yaz's family because I thought they

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were really terrific last year.

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Yeah, and can she scream?

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She was great at the end screaming out the doctor as the plane was

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going down.

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I thought it was tremendous.

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That whole sequence, that whole airplane sequence was just

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thrilling.

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So great.

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So Timothy Dalton, wasn't it?

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Like...

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I was expecting, you know, John Barry to be John Barry's estate to

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be ferociously ringing to do an a canola.

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Like, there was even as we saw the sort of, it might be a

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helicopter shot or something of the, or a big crane shot of the, of

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the estate.

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They're walking out of the vineyard into this.

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And it's the doctor's theme.

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It's Akinola's theme for the doctor, but done in the style of the

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James Bond theme.

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It was great.

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Yeah, really is.

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In fact, all of that stuff just worked tremendously.

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Wow.

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I thought.

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So let's talk about the master.

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Some of us were spoiled.

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I was in the same position as James.

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I think I thought I'd heard those rumours and I've been thinking

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of just Googling it to see whether I just dreamed it or not.

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But I'd completely forgotten, and when I saw the thing out the

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window, I thought, oh, my God, surely, surely, surely Chibnell's

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not bringing back the master.

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I wanted to be Omega.

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We didn't be Omega. creatures pushing through from another

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universe.

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I know, but he last appeared in the show in sort of 1983.

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So it's not him.

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Can I just say those creatures pushing through some other

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universe?

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Have a touch of the quarks about them.

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If you look at their heads.

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I'm thinking the Vord, and I'm not the only person to think that.

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The alien vaude.

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Yeah, they do.

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And episodes build up to the Vaud return.

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I think it's Vor...

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Actually, I think that's almost certainly a Vor tech.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, it's vort tech, and I'm sure I found that somewhere.

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It's like Arctic.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, look, Yartec, look, vortex.

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Same thing.

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Look, I hope I hope it's that because look, am I allowed to say

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what VOR is on the internet?

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Because you'll destroy my outro joke if you do.

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Okay.

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I mean, what a great choice to play the master.

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Sasha is he's such a good actor.

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I don't know if people have followed his career, but he started

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off in the History Boys where he immediately made a big splash

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along with the rest of the cast.

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And then, of course, we own him from an adventure in space and

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time.

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But also, he was in um, the boy with the top knot, which was an

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extremely well-received drama about two, 3 years ago in Britain

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and uh, I've loved him like all through that.

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I think he's fantastic.

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So when he turned up at the episode, I was doing a little dance of

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joy, and then he's the master.

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I thought this cannot get better.

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I was very young.

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I wasn't spoiled at all.

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And so, and so when he turned up and thought, oh, you're quite

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famous, and I'm thinking, that's an interesting role, and but I

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just kind of went, oh, you're going to be a red shirt. going to be

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killed off at some point, you know.

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So, so it took me completely by surprise.

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So I was very excited.

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Brendan, you expressed reservations, and I was watching you do

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this after I'd seen the episode, but before you had.

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Yeah, about the pairing of the doctor with a new evil post-Missy

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master.

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Yeah, mainly gods.

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I was talking to a friend of the podcast and colleague of mine

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Anson, who may be listening.

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Um, and pretty much he, he answered it in particular, is a huge

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Moffat fan.

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He's not just a doctor fan, but he loves the Moffat era, and he

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was the one who raised me.

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Missy's arc was so perfect, that putting something, putting a new

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version of the master after that might kind of spoil that a bit.

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That got me thinking, well, there is no reason we couldn't have a

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master between Ainley and Eric Roberts or Eric Roberts and Derek

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Jacoby.

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So I'm still kind of hoping for that earlier placement, awful

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ambiguity, and we're not told.

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But at the same time, if they came out next week and the doctor

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said, why are you doing this to me?

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The master said, you left me dead on a ship full of cybermen?

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Yeah.

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Why do you think I'm doing this?

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You know, I'm not going to write the series off or anything, but I

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think it could also be interesting with that, to have a master

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where the doctor can't refer to John Sim or Missy, because it's

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all yet to happen for him.

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I wonder whether that's a bit too far.

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Yeah, a bit too complicated because they've always met in order

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haven't they?

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Like, it's not like River song, they've just literally always met

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in order.

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I think...

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Sorry, Todd.

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Unless it comes down to all those multiple earths you see and his

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thing about, you know, everything you know is a lie.

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I mean, it's all connected to that.

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Is he an alternate universe version of the master?

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Or is this an alternate universe version of Doctor Who that...

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So they can Redcon, the fact that she's vagina.

364
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Yeah, it could be.

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Or is he the master from the mind, Robert?

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That is the master.

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Brilliant.

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So what are people expecting next week?

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It looks like a change in venue.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.

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What is that time?

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she's in.

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Paris.

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The Paris 1943, is it?

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It jumps back to the 40s during the Second World War.

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Oh, yeah. interesting.

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I, yeah, I have a theory as to where the doctor has gone.

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And because I was thinking, what do these things look like?

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What do these things look like when Yaz was there?

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And then after the doctor was there and we find out that the

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master is doing tissue compression again, that little wonderful

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bit with the matchbox.

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That was hilarious.

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Well, what, what if he, what if she's been shrunk down and she's

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on his clothes or when I said this to Nathan earlier in the

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master's hair because they look like strands of fibres.

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And because Sasha has a very, very sort of lunch thick head of

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it.

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So we're doing a homage to Planet of the Giants?

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Yeah, are we?

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I read someone.

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But there's also that electrical current going through.

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Yeah.

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Why not?

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Yeah, you know, the doctor has the Doctor Who, in an exciting

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adventure with some lice.

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The electrical current did seem to be the Vord, though, didn't

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it?

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I mean, because they all kind of attacked Yaz, like she got

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attacked by all of those electrical sparks and replaced the Vord

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in that cubicle.

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It is the vaude. spoil it.

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Yeah, but you find the crotons.

404
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But also, they can't be scared.

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What if they're just static electricity off his hair?

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Well, they're bottoms then.

407
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All right, it's just getting far too silly now.

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Does anyone does anyone have a kind of final statement?

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Not really fast statement.

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I just, the, the, um, the tribute to Terrence.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Which delightfully was cut out of the BBC America broadcast for no

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reason.

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Oh, that's a shame because I thought it was really touching.

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Yeah, I thought it was good.

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He would have hated creative.

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Would have hated this last time?

418
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Well, yeah, I guess he did create the master, didn't he?

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And the master, of course, we're recording this on the 3rd of

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January, but the master appeared for the 1st time on the 2nd of

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January 1971.

422
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Oh, there you go.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah, it's marked the 49th anniversary.

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Yeah, the character's 48th. 49th.

426
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What year is this?

427
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Madam, what year is this?

428
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Okay.

429
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Not saying that right.

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Look, 2013.

431
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All right.

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I think it's very heartening.

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I think the episode, for me, because I was not a big fan of last

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year. was very heartening to say that Chris can actually do this

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better.

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And, um, so I'm hoping that he'll be able to follow through next

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week.

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That's my main thing.

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Can we sustain this for a part 2 of the same quality?

440
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Yeah, I think that's that will be the focus of what we talk about

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next time.

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All right.

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Well, we might wind it up there.

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So, I guess all there is to say is just keep sure, sorry, just

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make sure that you're, you know, subscribe to the feed in your

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podcatcher of choice.

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Don't forget to go back and have a listen to what we've been

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saying about series 3 on Flight Through Entirety.

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And we will be back for Skyfall part 2 sometime next week.

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Spyfall, whatever.

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Part 2 sometime next week.

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So until next time, please make sure that you don't use one of

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Planet Earth's many search engines to look up VOR. trust me.

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Thank you very much for listening and good night.

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Good night.

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Good night. see you soon Brilliant.

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Okay, that's fine.

458
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How do you how do we think that went?

459
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That was all right.

460
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Oh, that was good.

461
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I did mention my Yaz theory, but it can't wait.

462
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What is your yes theory?

463
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Okay, my yes theory is this.

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I think she's going to become the companion of the master.

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Oh yes.

466
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No, I thought that too when I was watching.

467
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Did you?

468
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Yeah, because there's this whole thing.

469
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I don't know why there's just too many touches between them and

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too many muttered comments and things that you don't hear.

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And she is bereft after her whole experience.

472
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I don't know.

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Yeah, there's a whole flirtation and then there's the, oh, I

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thought I was going to die a bit, which is kind of, you know, when

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people go through life and death experiences, they hit on someone

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attractive who wanders past and Stockholm syndrome.

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And then, yes, says there's that bitch towards the end as well

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where he says, you know, stick with me.

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Like, um, yeah.

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Will she run off with him?

481
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and maybe there'll be this, maybe the master's main character for

482
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the whole season?

483
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That'd be awesome. would be great.

484
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I don't think that one.

485
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Well, there's no real evidence.

486
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I just got that feeling.

487
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Yeah I don't know.

488
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He just needs to be in every single episode.

489
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Yes.

490
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Yeah, needs to be a new season eight.